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Last night's ep....

Behind this cut are ranting and extreme displeasure.

I was incredibly disappointed, *incredibly* disappointed. What was that?? Dear my friends, you *know* I'm ride or die when it comes to SpN. I've found something I love about every single ep, well, except that steaming pile of Bloodlines, and even then, I thought in good hands, it would have had potential. But that ep last night...I'm furious. I haven't rewatched yet so I might be missing things, but what the fuck was that shit with Lucifer? I'm fucking willing to believe that they could work with Rowena, I'm fucking ready to believe that they can work with Crowley. But Lucifer? He never did anything even halfway beneficial for them. He tortured and, we're lead to infer, raped Sam for eons. There should be NO cute scenes. NONE. They ruin Lucifer's established character, they ruin the EXCELLLENT FUCKING WORK Jared produced at the midpoint of the season...the fucking Mark of Caine? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM?

They belittled and reduced every bit of this season. Granted when Amara showed up, it got scary, and nerve wracking, but I think I was afraid of the wrong thing. I worried that Dean was going to throw in with the Darkness and Sam was going to be lost in a pointless, pointless, POINTLESS gesture of sacrifice.

There were some good points, some *great* points here and there, But they were great almost in spite of the rest of that crapfest. Jensen and Jared worked it hard, really hard, trying to bring something out of this thing. Good job, guys. Not your fault.

So, I'm sorry, on the whole I didn't love this ep, but like I said, none of it had to do with Sam or Dean or Jensen or Jared. Later, I'll point out some parts that I thought they rocked the hell out of. But right now, I'm mad. I feel like Show blew raspberries in our faces. Please, anyone who read this and *liked* that ep, let me know what I missed. I may have been putting to much pressure on this poor, innocent episode.

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firesign10
May. 19th, 2016 11:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah, did they forget how terrified sam was when he was in the cage again? Was it just because Lucifer had a nice Cas-coating? It was bizarre, and it totally made the ep bizarre, and therefor nothing worked. And WHY would they send Lucifer to Heaven? really?
roxymissrose
May. 19th, 2016 11:15 pm (UTC)
I believed so much that Sam was terrified--and it was beautifully sold. They ruined that moment. Lucifer can be funny--he is, in a snarky, bastardy kind of way while never letting you forget that he's evil through and through and most importantly, The Prince of Lies. But this, what this was, it was...even if we remind ourselves that what we're seeing with our puny human senses probably looks and sounds completely different to beings who are the size of the Chrysler Building and whose real voices boils our brains. Unfortunately, in this instance, I could not suspend enough belief to make that work for me the way it was supposed to.
ladykorana
May. 20th, 2016 12:56 am (UTC)
This ep made "Bugs" look like a freakin' masterpiece.

Sam had no POV, no meaningful scenes with God, so the beautiful work done on his faith all season was flushed down the drain in the matter of 2 eps.

Dean and Sam were spectators in their own show, and the only actions they did do were comedic and flew in the face of all prior history with any of these characters. They didn't do nearly enough to establish the full weight of the power of Dean's bond with Amara this season. And that line about Dean lying when he's apologized to Sam in the past was one of the most tone deaf lines to ever come out of a character's mouth. I don't recognize these characters.

The sheer list of people they love that all these characters on their ill-conceived "heist-movie style" plan have had a hand in hurting or killing should have meant they could all barely stand to be in the same room with them. Ugh.

How ironic that "Free to be You and Me" and "The End" were on TNT today. Remember when Lucifer was utterly terrifying? You'd never think so from the last 3rd of this season. If I were Sam, I'd burn my bed and most of the contents of my bedroom after this, not give Lucifer family counseling.

Edited at 2016-05-20 01:07 am (UTC)
roxymissrose
May. 20th, 2016 01:59 am (UTC)
I agree--why, why did they destroy everything they'd done with Sam this season?

And that line about Dean lying when he's apologized to Sam in the past was one of the most tone deaf lines to ever come out of a character's mouth. I don't recognize these characters

Tone deaf describes this ep completely. If anyone can explain to me in a way that makes sense, I'd be very happy.

If I were Sam, I'd burn my bed and most of the contents of my bedroom after this

Oh, hell yeah.
fanspired
May. 20th, 2016 01:02 am (UTC)
I'm seeing a lot, and a mean a lot of anger being expressed about this episode. A lot of people aren't happy about it. I suspect Berens wasn't happy about it himself.
roxymissrose
May. 20th, 2016 02:02 am (UTC)
It's been described as passive-aggressive slap and I'm inclined to believe it. What *were* they thinking?????

You know that I'm usually willing to go with my show wherever it wants to take me, but this time...*shakes head*

I'm going to rewatch and see if I missed anything. Maybe I'm overreacting. :(
nomango
May. 20th, 2016 04:44 am (UTC)
100% agree. I was bracing for disappointment after liking the Chuck ep, but I was expecting it to come from a different front - not comedic! Comedy, really? Now? Tone-fucking deaf indeed.
roxymissrose
May. 20th, 2016 05:55 pm (UTC)
Comedy was * not* the way to go. I'm so surprised they'd go that way after building the tension the way they did. The end was good--the beginning was a prime example of WTF.
fufaraw
May. 20th, 2016 05:58 am (UTC)
I've developed an "enh" sort of philosophy about show. I watch with mostly dispassion, and if something lovely happens, I can clap my hands and enjoy it.

But this? Penetrated even my carefully maintained level of detachment. Somebody roll that up and get it out of here. It stinks.
roxymissrose
May. 20th, 2016 06:02 pm (UTC)
It was bad. I don't expect bad like that. I don't expect to be *disappointed* like that. Maybe on rewatch....
supernutjapan
May. 20th, 2016 03:23 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed the ep. What I liked the most about it was that the boys were left on their own at the end, with Lucifer dead and Chuck without power to help them. I can't wait to see what happens next. I'm also looking forward to going back and watching the season again, because it seems to me that the use of Lucifer in the fight and Sam facing his worst fears has been hinted at quite a bit.

I've always thought of Lucifer as a spoiled child/rebellious teenager who just happened to have too much power and didn't think anything of the little creatures called humans. Yes, he was scary and awesome in relation to the boys, but in relation to Chuck, he was just a kid throwing a temper tantrum. So this portrayal, to me, was just another aspect of the whole thing. Big picture vs small picture.

Sam... is doing whatever he has to to beat the Darkness because he blames himself for it. He is also respecting Cas' choice. And, I think he trusts God with his life - believing he is doing what He wants him to do. So much to think about and mull over<3 (I don't take Lucifer raping Sam in the cage to be canon by the way - although I think it would make an awesome fic... :P )

That's me though, and I didn't love Red Meat or The Chitters while everyone else seems to have. Which is actually why I thought I'd leave a comment. Because I felt the way you do now, with those eps. I wanted people who enjoyed the ep to tell me how much they enjoyed it so I could share that and search for something good in them. *hugs*

roxymissrose
May. 20th, 2016 06:12 pm (UTC)
I was incredibly disappointed, so I did something I rarely do, and posted my knee jerk reaction to an ep. In my first impressions I sometimes miss the whole picture. It's been known to happen. ;D

With the excellent point you make about Sam on my mind, I'll watch it again, though I may have to watch it several times....

Thank you! *HUG*
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