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hello, my friends!

I'm here trying to write some porn that doesn't sound like "insert tab A into slot B, repeatedly", so can you help a kindly old country pornographer out? There was a day when I could quickly craft a little home-made pr0n, but those days are long gone, mythical with age. lesigh.

So much thinking in this new age. Why, in my day, we'd just let the characters whack away at it and the devil take the hindmost (but no Samifer, bulletproof anti for me!) Plus, everyone has seen everything, or so it feels. Maybe it's just me. And there's the fact that the audience I'm writing for are grown-ups, and I think it's safe to say that they've probably been around the block a few times.

I need inspiration! I don't want to be accused of using my rotary-dial telephoning apparatus to call it in.

Let me take a second to snorfle up my sleeve, that was hysterically funny....

So, recs of hot stuff, anyone? What's your fav? Or, give me a really good reason why it doesn't matter if there's smut or not? Ha, no! Kidding! Folks have been so patient about waiting for this fic that they deserve a little pay-off! :D

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mdlaw
Jan. 12th, 2018 10:38 pm (UTC)

Hey, to me, the story is more important than the smut.  So no help here,; but the build up, the love, the reason has to be there.  Man, that's a bunch of commas.   m.   :/

roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:13 pm (UTC)
It's for the last chapter of Garden--I wanted some payoff, for the reader, for me, and I've been assured it's quite all right to end the story with some smut. I just want it to be good, interesting smut that makes the reader believe that yeah, those boys are meant to be. :)
(Anonymous)
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:19 pm (UTC)
Hey, remember The French Mistake...fade to Black... No just kidding. No sorry, for me just knowing they are together is enough. Although, I would like to know that Dean doesn't have that terrified look on his face that Jensen gets whenever Dean has sex. Oops sorry again. I am seriously no help at all. m.
roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:28 pm (UTC)
LOL!!!!

He really does, doesn't he? Look more terrified than turned-on. :D
quickreaver
Jan. 12th, 2018 10:42 pm (UTC)
I've got no reccs right off the top of my brain, but I was just lamenting this with someone ... how I'm kinda tired of reading the pornier fics because they're just the same ol' same ol', anymore.

Okay, wait, I lied: dugindeep's Domestic Dreams 'verse is TREMENDOUS. (J2, btw.) My most recent fave. But I think the main reason I'm enjoying it so much isn't just that Amy writes delicious sexytimes, it's because she's fabricated this world where the characters are complicated and subtly mysterious and we feel SO hard for her businessman-in-the-closet Jared. He wants so desperately to be out and in love with escort!Jensen ... who we're never quite sure about. Is Jensen forming genuine affection for Jared and if he IS feeling such affection, will it ever be bigger than the job? Or is Jensen just really REALLY good at what he does? And is it even realistic (or fair) for Jared to be falling in love with the fantasy Jensen is brilliant at creating, to the point of craving that eventuality from Jensen?

So I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not about The Sex, it's about the emotion you weave into it. The act needs to represent and reflect the theme and goal of your fic. I'd worry less about the physical semantics and more about the story threaded through them. Maybe even consider exploring other kinks, besides traditional sex acts? Whatever you've been vaguely curious about: there's a reddit for that, lol!

Or hunt down one of the kink bingos? (I always get cards and never do didddly squat with 'em. SOME DAAAAY.)

OH! Also, I'm very much inspired by songs (no, really?), so maybe dig through your fave playlist and dissect one song into something erotic.

Ultimately, I'm no help, I'm afraid! Was there a particular event you're writing for?
roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:11 pm (UTC)
omgosh, I *love* Domestic Dreams! It's sexy, but so sad, too. I'm so caught up in Jared's emotions, but I'm afraid it's just a job, albeit a really great one, for Jensen. I think that mostly, Jensen is very kind and understanding. And yeah, for the sex to be good, the emotions have to be there, I totally agree. Just slapping two people together until they come is boring without background or emotional involvement on the reader's side. I'm just looking for the inspiration to make it hotter than what I've been capable of lately.

You know what? I don't even mean hotter, I mean I do want to show that deep emotional involvement, while also making the reader sweat some. ;D

I'm actually writing the last chapter of a SpN AU in which Dean loses his memories and learns that he can have it all without breaking Sam's heart. :D
tabaqui
Jan. 12th, 2018 10:42 pm (UTC)
Heeeeee!
You are such a goober.

Now - i'm all for smut, but if the story resists it, that's fine, too.

I'm trying to think of just what, recently, I've read that's very smutty and the answer would be...not much. *le sigh*
I'm thinking - so long as there's love and a little desperation and a little laughter? It's perfect. :)
roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:19 pm (UTC)
Oh, it's totally the opposite--this story has been wanting smut all along, but it's never been right to have it.

I'm going to have to mine the past. Man, back in the day, those writers killed!

Without actually making anyone bleed or die or involve kinks that scare me.... :D
tabaqui
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:21 pm (UTC)
Heeeeeee!
I know it'll rock no matter what, bb.
*smishes you*

Have an inspirational icon.
roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:29 pm (UTC)
That man, that back! My second favorite back in all the world! :D
fufaraw
Jan. 12th, 2018 10:56 pm (UTC)
What these wise woman all said. Of course, I'm not typical so my view is definitely slanted from the "but, why is describing the bumping of uglies mandatory? As long as the emotional contact and conflict is there?" POV. But, it's a quite nice POV, I think.
roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:24 pm (UTC)
This is so true! But I'm thinking in a story about two lovers who've been together for a long, long time, and who've been seperated, but are now reunited--heck, I want unglies. :D

I did consider closing the story without sex, but since I opened it with non-con, I'd like to close it with loving, consenual sex. I'm not looking for marathon, stop halfway through to rehydrate and snack sex, mind you...just romantic sex, Winchester style! Heavily Winchester style. :)
fufaraw
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:33 pm (UTC)
Then you got this. You already know what you want to paint, you've done it before and so well. Just...don't be anxious, get out of their way and let them show you...

Um. Okay wow, I'm really eager to read it, now!
roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:38 pm (UTC)
*HUGS*

You are fabulous. Totally fabulous. ♥
amypond45
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:14 pm (UTC)
Just chiming in and agreeing with others here: the characters' motivations (sometimes unknown even to them) are much more interesting than the sex, per se. I love a hot scene as much as the next gal, but if it doesn't make sense or lacks emotional complexity it just doesn't work for me.

I think you write lovely sex scenes, by the way. I hope you're not feeling in a rut. Sometimes it's just not happening, which is also very real in a long and complicated relationship. Good old fashioned cuddling (especially when it's something the characters like to pretend they don't like to do) is just the thing. Write it how you feel it, is all I'm saying, and listen to those beautifully messed-up characters. If they don't want the sexy times, maybe that's the way it should be. Or let it happen off-screen.

Whatever you do, I know I for one will love it!
roxymissrose
Jan. 12th, 2018 11:36 pm (UTC)
Ah, *thank* you!! I'm always a mess trying to write the sex, always totally sure that they're boring! I just want this particular sex to be GOOD, because Sam has wanted it so much for so long. It's got to be the kind of sex that says I love you without reservation and that has to come from Dean. I might be putting a bit too much pressure on myself--hence the call for help.

Everyone has given me something to think about, for sure. I need to stop worrying about a nebulous audience that likes a different kind of sex scene than I do, and write what I feel suits the story. :)
quickreaver
Jan. 13th, 2018 12:36 am (UTC)
I need to stop worrying about a nebulous audience that likes a different kind of sex scene than I do, and write what I feel suits the story. :)

Bingo. And I know, IT'S TOUGH. You want your audience to love your handiwork. You want to give them what they want. It's really easy to get caught up in what seems to be the popular and beloved way fandom does things. But each story is different. As it should be!

If the sex scene feels like pulling teeth, or the heat just isn't there, it might be that the story is trying to tell you something, or your subconscious is guiding you away from a given direction. Something isn't falling into place. LISTEN TO THAT LITTLE VOICE. Trust yourself. :)
roxymissrose
Jan. 13th, 2018 12:55 am (UTC)
This was really good! I really appreciate ya'll giving your input! This is why other places don't work for me--it's the community we have here, the willingness to jump in when someone needs to borrow other folks brains! :)

I think I kw what direction I want this to take now, and support that my porn isn't as boring as I always feel it is.

Hold my quill, I'm about to go in!
quickreaver
Jan. 13th, 2018 02:53 am (UTC)
\O/!!!
gingersnap1224
Jan. 13th, 2018 12:30 am (UTC)
The story so far is so tentative and careful and protective. Dean is scared and timid and doesn't want to assume anything about Sam and Sam is scared and protective and doesn't want to overstep with Dean. Is that how you want the sex to be, slow and caring or does everything turn on it's head and it's a desperate, crazy smut-a-thon?

Either is good. I like both. I'm no help at all. Bye.
roxymissrose
Jan. 13th, 2018 12:37 am (UTC)
Arg...I think some sort of middle ground would work the best with these guys...and hey, that was very helpful! See how I figured out what kind of sex, at least? :D


milly_gal
Jan. 13th, 2018 11:19 am (UTC)
I think unless it's a pwp (plot with porn or plot what plot) then the smut becomes a secondary thing. I've ready me plenties of fics that the heat doesn't come from the sex on the page but the imagination behind the sex out of shot, if that makes any sense? However if you want hothothot you can't go wrong with anything that firesign10 writes!
roxymissrose
Jan. 13th, 2018 06:29 pm (UTC)
However if you want hothothot you can't go wrong with anything that firesign10 writes!

This is very true! :D
impala_chick
Jan. 14th, 2018 12:01 am (UTC)
Ok I don't know if you've seen this blog post before, but it has helped me sort out my sex scenes - especially the 'zing' concept. http://trickster.org/res/howtowrite.html
roxymissrose
Jan. 14th, 2018 02:52 am (UTC)
Wow. THANK YOU!! That's great!

3. Make the sex fit the characters
(and not the other way around)


YES.
impala_chick
Jan. 15th, 2018 09:37 pm (UTC)
Yay, glad some of it resonated. I bookmarked it and I reference it often.
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