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Did anyone notice that TKO by epicallytired is being posted at AO3 under orphan_account?

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meus_venator
Oct. 29th, 2018 03:00 am (UTC)
I didn’t see that. I wonder if it’s family?
roxymissrose
Oct. 29th, 2018 03:05 am (UTC)
As far as I recall, it was just her brother, but I'm not sure...maybe a friend? I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that, not without making a note that she's passed.
meus_venator
Oct. 29th, 2018 03:26 am (UTC)
I remember a year or so ago I had asked for any ksock fic and someone pointed out an oprhan_account link, which I immediately snagged, but then another comment came up, that I think was ksock, keeping track of things saying, did you post this without the authors permission? Which sent a chill through my spine and then the post was taken down on AO3, so they must have been a third party.
That's bad, especially when their LJ is still up for people (isn't it?).
roxymissrose
Oct. 29th, 2018 03:38 am (UTC)
Yes, her LJ's still up, headed with that memorial status tag. I can't imagine who would do this without permission. Of course it's tempting to share such good writing, but it seems wrong to me. That's something that in the old days I would have said should be discussed in the SpN community, but now I feel like we're so thinly-spread there's no way. I guess stuff like this will pop up more frequently as fandom runs down and manners and etiquette changes.
meus_venator
Oct. 29th, 2018 03:43 am (UTC)
Yes, unless it's family or a friend charged with caretaking their fic, I totally agree, that's not good.
(Anonymous)
Oct. 29th, 2018 04:42 am (UTC)
Wait, I thought orphan_account was a user name put on stories that were left behind by writers who quit AO3 but didn't delete their stories. Is that not what orphan_account is?

--Jessica
roxymissrose
Oct. 29th, 2018 04:56 am (UTC)
That's what an orphan account is supposed to be, yeah. It's strange that someone has decided to archive her stories on their own. And unsettling, in my opinion.
fufaraw
Oct. 29th, 2018 10:11 am (UTC)
I understood it was for authors, or friends or family posthumously carrying out the author's wishes, to orphan fanworks, not for some random person to do without permission.

I do understand the instinct to preserve, but surely fic, art, and vids belong to the creator. Choosing to orphan is an act of generosity but not one to be undertaken by a stranger without permission.

Also, my icon has a crush on your icon. *g*

Edited at 2018-10-29 10:18 am (UTC)
roxymissrose
Oct. 30th, 2018 12:41 am (UTC)
*my icon winks saucily at yours*

I do understand the instinct to preserve, but surely fic, art, and vids belong to the creator.

My feeling as well.

tabaqui
Oct. 29th, 2018 09:54 pm (UTC)
Do we know it's been put up by someone randomly? Maybe it's up via family or some such? Like 'preserve these works for me' and they just haven't had time until now? I dunno.

I'm....wishy washy on stuff like that. You put stuff up on the internet, and people like it or love it or whatever, and it's kinda....out there. I don't really get all the 'omg, you don't have permission to share this with a fan who is desperate to re-read this thing i deleted ten years ago!!!'

It just seems weird to me. I mean - don't claim it as *your* work, or change it, but sharing... that's what people do. Share books, share magazines, share movies..... I dunno.
roxymissrose
Oct. 30th, 2018 12:54 am (UTC)
I think what bothers me is that the journal is there, in memorial status, so likely it's not going anywhere. It also seems odd to me to post without giving the readers a heads up as to why it's being posted. Why post as an orphan account? Why not a note letting people know why there will be no replies to comments or asks for continuation?
I get that it's lovely to be able to download the story--love that feature so much--but folks downloading it have no idea who wrote the story, and okay, she doesn't care, but I do--she was such a good writer and deserves the credit.

You put stuff up on the internet, and people like it or love it or whatever, and it's kinda....out there.


Yeah, sure, it's public, that's the story. That's why I don't feel any kind of conflict when I'm asking if her stuff should be posted at AO3 that way, yet turn around and go to her LJ and copy-paste stuff. But I include her headers and think of that as respecting her authorship. I guess I just felt kind of emotionally involved about it, and hated that her stuff wouldn't be recognized as *hers*.
tabaqui
Oct. 30th, 2018 01:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, that is kinda weird, it's so.

*smishes*
You're a good person, bb, and I totally understand why you feel that way. It's sucky that she's not getting recognized for the story.
roxymissrose
Oct. 30th, 2018 02:41 am (UTC)
*clings* I worry about other people's shit too much, lol! My kid keeps telling me to stop being the internet police for free. :D


tabaqui
Oct. 30th, 2018 02:46 am (UTC)
HA, well. That's the sign of big, caring heart. Which is one of the reasons we love you so.
You giant goober. :D
*clings*
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